The Whole Conversation

Rewiring the Future: How Social Change 2.0 Upgrades the System from the Inside Out with David Gershon

David Gershon and Dr. Julie explore the elegant mechanics of Social Change 2.0—a visionary framework for scaling transformation from the inside out. Dismantling the limitations of protest-based change, they unpack a model rooted in empowerment, vision, and catalytic community design. Learn how to reimagine movements, organizations, and ecosystems as living systems for social evolution.
About David Gershon:
David Gershon, Founder and CEO of Empowerment Institute’s Center for Reinventing the Planet, has been called “the number one expert on social change.” He has dedicated his life to empowering humanity to believe we can create the world of our dreams and designing the strategies and tools to help us make this a reality.
In 1986 at the height of the Cold War, he conceived and organized in partnership with UNICEF, the passing of a torch of peace around the world. Called the First Earth Run, this event engaged 25 million people and 45 heads of state (including the principal Cold War adversaries US President, Ronald Reagan and Russian President, Mikhail Gorbachev) in 62 countries. Through its partnership with ABC Television and their global media partners, the First Earth Run was witnessed by a billion people. Wherever the torch of peace went, wars stopped and the world was united as one.Based on this experience and subsequent decades designing and scaling robust behavior change, community empowerment, and large system transformation strategies, David has architected his boldest global initiative — Peace on Earth by 2030 moonshot with its Peace Game and Peace Zone transformative tools. The moonshot plan proposes that transforming individuals by cultivating peace practices through the Peace Game and creating supportive community environments through Peace Zones, and scaling these efforts to reach critical mass at both the individual and community levels, can fundamentally shift global consciousness and societal norms, leading to Peace on Earth by 2030. This creates an environment where peace, cooperation, and shared purpose are the norm, significantly reducing barriers and risks for all positive global endeavors. It is delivered through non profits, local governments, businesses, universities,and faith-based groups.David is author of twelve books, including the award-winning Social Change 2.0: A Blueprint for Reinventing Our World and Empowerment: The Art of Creating Your Life As You Want It. His work has won much recognition including winning the prestigious NASA global competition as “the most outstanding solution in addressing human impact on the planet’s sustainability.”David has lectured at Harvard, MIT, and Johns Hopkins and served as an advisor to the Clinton White House and the United Nations on empowerment and transformative social change.
Additonal links and resources -https://peace2030.earthhttps://empowermentinstitute.nethttps://reinventing.earth
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

Empowerment at the Growing Edge: Becoming the Change Agent with David Gershon

In this powerful episode, David Gershon joins Dr. Julie for a soulful conversation about personal empowerment. What does it mean to live at your growing edge? How can the most subtle inner shifts become the most radical acts of change? This is a call to awaken your inner changemaker—not through force, but through resonance, alignment, and authentic presence.
About David Gershon:
David Gershon, Founder and CEO of Empowerment Institute’s Center for Reinventing the Planet, has been called “the number one expert on social change.” He has dedicated his life to empowering humanity to believe we can create the world of our dreams and designing the strategies and tools to help us make this a reality.
In 1986 at the height of the Cold War, he conceived and organized in partnership with UNICEF, the passing of a torch of peace around the world. Called the First Earth Run, this event engaged 25 million people and 45 heads of state (including the principal Cold War adversaries US President, Ronald Reagan and Russian President, Mikhail Gorbachev) in 62 countries. Through its partnership with ABC Television and their global media partners, the First Earth Run was witnessed by a billion people. Wherever the torch of peace went, wars stopped and the world was united as one.Based on this experience and subsequent decades designing and scaling robust behavior change, community empowerment, and large system transformation strategies, David has architected his boldest global initiative — Peace on Earth by 2030 moonshot with its Peace Game and Peace Zone transformative tools. The moonshot plan proposes that transforming individuals by cultivating peace practices through the Peace Game and creating supportive community environments through Peace Zones, and scaling these efforts to reach critical mass at both the individual and community levels, can fundamentally shift global consciousness and societal norms, leading to Peace on Earth by 2030. This creates an environment where peace, cooperation, and shared purpose are the norm, significantly reducing barriers and risks for all positive global endeavors. It is delivered through non profits, local governments, businesses, universities,and faith-based groups.David is author of twelve books, including the award-winning Social Change 2.0: A Blueprint for Reinventing Our World and Empowerment: The Art of Creating Your Life As You Want It. His work has won much recognition including winning the prestigious NASA global competition as “the most outstanding solution in addressing human impact on the planet’s sustainability.”David has lectured at Harvard, MIT, and Johns Hopkins and served as an advisor to the Clinton White House and the United Nations on empowerment and transformative social change.
Additonal links and resources -https://peace2030.earthhttps://empowermentinstitute.nethttps://reinventing.earth
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

You Only Have 7 Seconds… or a Holy Moment: Reclaiming Resonance in a Speed-Obsessed World

In a culture driven by clicks, metrics, and the desperate race to capture attention in seven seconds or less, what if the real revolution is a return to presence?
In this soul-centered solo episode, Dr. Julie Krull invites you to slow down—and remember. Blending sacred story, mystic vision, and lived wisdom, she contrasts the frantic pace of a sales-obsessed world with the holy stillness of a moment that truly matters. Drawing from her recent travel experiences and a profound message from her late friend Makasha, Julie unpacks what it means to shift from performing to presencing… from grabbing attention to radiating coherence.
This episode is not a lesson—it’s a transmission. A gentle invitation to turn inward, root in your own frequency, and lead from the inside out. Because you don’t need seven seconds to impress the world. You are the breath of God made visible. And this moment—this holy moment—is enough.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

Learning to Be Like Grape Jelly: Becoming a Magnetic Force for the Unitive Age

What do grape jelly and global transformation have in common? In this playful yet profound episode, Dr. Julie Krull shares a sticky springtime story involving orioles, forgotten feeders, and a message from the natural world: be like grape jelly. Through the wisdom of winged messengers and the mystery of magnetic attraction, Julie explores how we become a living broadcast of resonance—an irresistible force for coherence, love, and the dawning unitive age. This episode is a tuning fork for your soul, inviting you to live your essence, bring presence with consistency, and trust that the right ones will show up.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

What’s in Your Fridge? Funky Leftovers and the Future of Consciousness

Sometimes the journey of awakening doesn’t start with a retreat, arevelation, or a cosmic download—it starts with the refrigerator. In this delightfullyunexpected solo episode, Dr. Julie Krull invites you into a sticky, sacred metaphor born from expired condiments, crusty shelves, and the radical act of cleaning out what no longer serves. What if that funky jar of barbecue sauce is trying to teach you something about coherence? What if clearing your fridge is a spiritual practice of composting the old world to make space for the new?
This is a story about making room—for resonance, for remembrance, for the radiant now. It’s about shedding the outdated from our homes, our habits, and our hearts tobecome the magnetic attractors for the future of consciousness itself. Grab a cloth,open your crisper, and prepare to laugh, reflect, and reimagine what it means to clean with sacred purpose.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

Living the Way of Unity: Becoming Who We Were Born to Be

What does it mean to embody unity—not as a lofty ideal, but a lived reality? In this final episode, Dr. Atkinson invites us into the practices, virtues, and daily devotions of living in harmony with self, other, nature, and the cosmos. We explore the new human story being written now—and how each of us plays a vital role in the turning of the age.
Robert Atkinson, Ph.D., author, speaker, and developmental psychologist, is a 2017 Nautilus Book Award winner for The Story of Our Time: From Duality to Interconnectedness to Oneness, and a co-editor of Our Moment of Choice: Evolutionary Visions and Hope for the Future (2020). He is also the founder of One Planet Peace Forum, and StoryCommons, an internationally recognized authority on life story interviewing, a pioneer in the techniques of personal myth making and soul making, and a member of the Evolutionary Leaders Circle, a project of the Source of Synergy Foundation. 
He is the author of nine books, including The Story of Our Time, called “…a must read by the widest of global audiences…” by Michael Bernard Beckwith, and Mystic Journey: Getting to the Heart of Your Soul’s Story (2012), which was called “an exquisite exploration of the spiritual craft of soul-making” by Jean Houston. Of his memoir, Remembering 1969: Searching for the Eternal in Changing Times (2008), Thomas Moore, author of Care of the Soul, said it was “profound, friendly, inspiring, and nostalgic… I loved it.” He also assisted Babatunde Olatunji with his autobiography, The Beat of My Drum (2005), of which Pete Seeger said, “It is good to have this book, with his words, to tell his story more completely.” 
He received his B.A. in philosophy and American Studies from Southampton College of Long Island University, and an M.A. in American Folk Culture from SUNY, Cooperstown. Then his journeys took him to the Hudson River and a series of adventures, including: sailing on the maiden voyage of the Clearwater with Pete Seeger and his singing crew; attending the Woodstock music festival; living in a cabin in the woods near the Hudson River; visiting Arlo Guthrie at his farm in the Berkshires; having a synchronistic and fateful meeting with Joseph Campbell that became a mentoring relationship; being given a cell in a Franciscan monastery as a guest; and, returning to teach a course at Southampton College, all of which frame his memoir of that period, Remembering 1969.
Following the publication of his first book – Songs of the Open Road: The Poetry of Folk Rock and the Journey of the Hero (1974, out of print, but still around somewhere) – he completed his second master’s at the University of New Hampshire in Counseling, and his Ph.D. at the University of Pennsylvania in cross-cultural human development. He then did a post-doctoral research fellowship in adolescent development at the University of Chicago, which resulted in the publication of The Teenage World (1987), with his mentors.
His books on life storytelling, The Gift of Stories: Practical and Spiritual Applications of Autobiography, Life Stories, and Personal Mythmaking (1995) and The Life Story Interview (1998), have been translated into Japanese, Italian, and Romanian and are widely used in personal growth and life review settings.
He is professor emeritus of cross-cultural human development and religious studies at the University of Southern Maine, and director of Story Commons. At USM, he was the first Diversity Scholar in the College of Education and Human Development (2002-2004) and a co-founding faculty of the Russell Scholars Program and the Religious Studies minor. He has also taught a week long summer course sailing the Maine coast on a traditional schooner. In the fall of 2002, he was a faculty member on the Semester at Sea around the world voyage with 30 other faculty and 600 undergraduates. He has since sailed on Semester at Sea’s Enrichment Voyages a number of times as a workshop leader.
His other interests are photography (his gallery, where he enjoys sharing with others the beauty, mystery, and wonder of the world in which we live, can be seen here), sailing, biking, hiking, and traveling.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

Sacred Disruption: The Fractures That Awaken Us

Crisis is not the end of the story—it’s the beginning of a deeper one. In this episode, we examine how disruption, grief, and global upheaval can become holy catalysts for unity. Dr. Atkinson speaks to the evolutionary necessity of breakdown as breakthrough, and how personal and collective suffering can be part of the sacred architecture for transformation.
Robert Atkinson, Ph.D., author, speaker, and developmental psychologist, is a 2017 Nautilus Book Award winner for The Story of Our Time: From Duality to Interconnectedness to Oneness, and a co-editor of Our Moment of Choice: Evolutionary Visions and Hope for the Future (2020). He is also the founder of One Planet Peace Forum, and StoryCommons, an internationally recognized authority on life story interviewing, a pioneer in the techniques of personal myth making and soul making, and a member of the Evolutionary Leaders Circle, a project of the Source of Synergy Foundation. 
He is the author of nine books, including The Story of Our Time, called “…a must read by the widest of global audiences…” by Michael Bernard Beckwith, and Mystic Journey: Getting to the Heart of Your Soul’s Story (2012), which was called “an exquisite exploration of the spiritual craft of soul-making” by Jean Houston. Of his memoir, Remembering 1969: Searching for the Eternal in Changing Times (2008), Thomas Moore, author of Care of the Soul, said it was “profound, friendly, inspiring, and nostalgic… I loved it.” He also assisted Babatunde Olatunji with his autobiography, The Beat of My Drum (2005), of which Pete Seeger said, “It is good to have this book, with his words, to tell his story more completely.” 
He received his B.A. in philosophy and American Studies from Southampton College of Long Island University, and an M.A. in American Folk Culture from SUNY, Cooperstown. Then his journeys took him to the Hudson River and a series of adventures, including: sailing on the maiden voyage of the Clearwater with Pete Seeger and his singing crew; attending the Woodstock music festival; living in a cabin in the woods near the Hudson River; visiting Arlo Guthrie at his farm in the Berkshires; having a synchronistic and fateful meeting with Joseph Campbell that became a mentoring relationship; being given a cell in a Franciscan monastery as a guest; and, returning to teach a course at Southampton College, all of which frame his memoir of that period, Remembering 1969.
Following the publication of his first book – Songs of the Open Road: The Poetry of Folk Rock and the Journey of the Hero (1974, out of print, but still around somewhere) – he completed his second master’s at the University of New Hampshire in Counseling, and his Ph.D. at the University of Pennsylvania in cross-cultural human development. He then did a post-doctoral research fellowship in adolescent development at the University of Chicago, which resulted in the publication of The Teenage World (1987), with his mentors.
His books on life storytelling, The Gift of Stories: Practical and Spiritual Applications of Autobiography, Life Stories, and Personal Mythmaking (1995) and The Life Story Interview (1998), have been translated into Japanese, Italian, and Romanian and are widely used in personal growth and life review settings.
He is professor emeritus of cross-cultural human development and religious studies at the University of Southern Maine, and director of Story Commons. At USM, he was the first Diversity Scholar in the College of Education and Human Development (2002-2004) and a co-founding faculty of the Russell Scholars Program and the Religious Studies minor. He has also taught a week long summer course sailing the Maine coast on a traditional schooner. In the fall of 2002, he was a faculty member on the Semester at Sea around the world voyage with 30 other faculty and 600 undergraduates. He has since sailed on Semester at Sea’s Enrichment Voyages a number of times as a workshop leader.
His other interests are photography (his gallery, where he enjoys sharing with others the beauty, mystery, and wonder of the world in which we live, can be seen here), sailing, biking, hiking, and traveling.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

The Call to Unity: Remembering Our Place in the Sacred Story

In this first episode, we explore the powerful invitation to live from unity consciousness. Dr. Robert Atkinson shares insights from The Way of Unity that trace our shared human journey from separation to wholeness—illuminating how myth, meaning, and deep time guide us toward collective awakening. This is the call to remember: Who are we, really, in the larger story of the universe?
Robert Atkinson, Ph.D., author, speaker, and developmental psychologist, is a 2017 Nautilus Book Award winner for The Story of Our Time: From Duality to Interconnectedness to Oneness, and a co-editor of Our Moment of Choice: Evolutionary Visions and Hope for the Future (2020). He is also the founder of One Planet Peace Forum, and StoryCommons, an internationally recognized authority on life story interviewing, a pioneer in the techniques of personal myth making and soul making, and a member of the Evolutionary Leaders Circle, a project of the Source of Synergy Foundation. 
He is the author of nine books, including The Story of Our Time, called “…a must read by the widest of global audiences…” by Michael Bernard Beckwith, and Mystic Journey: Getting to the Heart of Your Soul’s Story (2012), which was called “an exquisite exploration of the spiritual craft of soul-making” by Jean Houston. Of his memoir, Remembering 1969: Searching for the Eternal in Changing Times (2008), Thomas Moore, author of Care of the Soul, said it was “profound, friendly, inspiring, and nostalgic… I loved it.” He also assisted Babatunde Olatunji with his autobiography, The Beat of My Drum (2005), of which Pete Seeger said, “It is good to have this book, with his words, to tell his story more completely.” 
He received his B.A. in philosophy and American Studies from Southampton College of Long Island University, and an M.A. in American Folk Culture from SUNY, Cooperstown. Then his journeys took him to the Hudson River and a series of adventures, including: sailing on the maiden voyage of the Clearwater with Pete Seeger and his singing crew; attending the Woodstock music festival; living in a cabin in the woods near the Hudson River; visiting Arlo Guthrie at his farm in the Berkshires; having a synchronistic and fateful meeting with Joseph Campbell that became a mentoring relationship; being given a cell in a Franciscan monastery as a guest; and, returning to teach a course at Southampton College, all of which frame his memoir of that period, Remembering 1969.
Following the publication of his first book – Songs of the Open Road: The Poetry of Folk Rock and the Journey of the Hero (1974, out of print, but still around somewhere) – he completed his second master’s at the University of New Hampshire in Counseling, and his Ph.D. at the University of Pennsylvania in cross-cultural human development. He then did a post-doctoral research fellowship in adolescent development at the University of Chicago, which resulted in the publication of The Teenage World (1987), with his mentors.
His books on life storytelling, The Gift of Stories: Practical and Spiritual Applications of Autobiography, Life Stories, and Personal Mythmaking (1995) and The Life Story Interview (1998), have been translated into Japanese, Italian, and Romanian and are widely used in personal growth and life review settings.
He is professor emeritus of cross-cultural human development and religious studies at the University of Southern Maine, and director of Story Commons. At USM, he was the first Diversity Scholar in the College of Education and Human Development (2002-2004) and a co-founding faculty of the Russell Scholars Program and the Religious Studies minor. He has also taught a week long summer course sailing the Maine coast on a traditional schooner. In the fall of 2002, he was a faculty member on the Semester at Sea around the world voyage with 30 other faculty and 600 undergraduates. He has since sailed on Semester at Sea’s Enrichment Voyages a number of times as a workshop leader.
His other interests are photography (his gallery, where he enjoys sharing with others the beauty, mystery, and wonder of the world in which we live, can be seen here), sailing, biking, hiking, and traveling.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

Sacred Activism and the Fierce Grace of Now

It’s not enough to meditate through the collapse. We need soul-powered action rooted in love. This episode dives into the practical, poetic edge where awakening meets activism. Duane shares insights on simplicity, service, and how to ride the evolutionary edge without falling off the map. This is sacred activism for an unraveling world.
ABOUT DUANE:
Duane Elgin is a futurist, author, and social visionary best known for pioneering the voluntary simplicity movement. He’s the author of The Living Universe, Awakening Earth, and Choosing Earth, and co-director of the Choosing Earth Project. Learn more at duaneelgin.com.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.

Rewilding Our Worldview: Consciousness as Cosmos

What if the cosmos isn’t cold and empty—but alive, intelligent, and intimate? Duane and Julie explore the radical implications of a living universe, and how upgrading our worldview could shift everything—from economics to empathy. This is not your average spiritual chat—it’s a worldview intervention wrapped in cosmic fire.
ABOUT DUANE:
Duane Elgin is a futurist, author, and social visionary best known for pioneering the voluntary simplicity movement. He’s the author of The Living Universe, Awakening Earth, and Choosing Earth, and co-director of the Choosing Earth Project. Learn more at duaneelgin.com.
The Whole Conversation
A tuning fork for the Unitive Age, The Whole Conversation is where ancient wisdom meets emerging science, and personal awakening ripples into global transformation. Hosted by Dr. Julie Krull—evolutionary leader, spiritual mentor, and soulful disruptor—this show delivers 20-minute microdoses of coherence, resonance, and embodied wholeness for these turbulent times.
From mystics and movement makers to scientists and soul-guides, each episode transmits a pulse from the Field: a sacred remembering that you are not separate—you are part of the Whole.
Rooted in the vision of a conscious, connected future, The Whole Conversation is a proud partner of the Holomovement. Together, we’re not just talking about change—we’re becoming it.